Jay_Corvid ([info]jay_corvid) wrote,
@ 2004-05-16 23:14:00
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When being mean simply isn't enough, become a state delegate...
Please read the following bolded clip from our friends at www.VirginiaIsForHaters.org ...

The Virginia General Assembly passed a law April 21 banning all contracts between partners in homosexual relationships. Not just marriage, all contracts.

At the center of HB 751 is this language:

"A civil union, partnership contract or other arrangement between persons of the same sex purporting to bestow the privileges or obligations of marriage is prohibited. Any such civil union, partnership contract or other arrangement entered into by persons of the same sex in another state or jurisdiction shall be void in all respects in Virginia and any contractual rights created thereby shall be void and unenforceable."


After hearing about this law, and reading up on it, I penned the following email to our dear friend, Delegate Bob Marshall, who was kind enough to sponsor the bill...


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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:42:51 -0400
From: Jay Corvid
Subject: Deplorable
To: Del_Marshall@house.state.va.us

I am an affluent white male who, as is evidenced by the state sanctioned ring I wear on my left hand, is as heterosexual as they come. And, despite the fact that I work an average of 60 hours a week (in Virginia, by the way) and have numerous other activities that keep my calendar quite full, I feel compelled to spend a moment to let you know how I feel regarding your recent sponsorship of HB751. If you aren't
sure where this is headed, I invite you to glance at the subject line of this email.

I sit here completely vexed by the decision passed by the Virginia General Assembly, which serves to further alienate and punish the homosexuals in our community. And what really galls me about this whole matter, is that you and some of your colleagues seem to eagerly seek out every possible means of de-stabilizing and de-humanizing some of your own citizens, in your malicious fervor to impress your own moral values upon everyone you have sworn to represent. You see, committing an act of evil is one thing, but to do it with a gleam in your eye and with hate in your heart, is something else entirely. Think I have gone to far? Please allow me to
explain.

There are those who are against gay marriage, and rally from behind the shield of "the sanctity of marriage." Despite the rampant rate of divorce in this country (even without gay marriage), I can understand (if not respect) their view. Just as the racist bigots of the not-to-distant past ultimately learned in the case of civil rights, these individuals will succumb to fairness and justice in time.

However, what you have done goes far beyond that. You are not doing anything as noble as the concept of "saving marriage." You had the opportunity to leave marriage as it is, and to provide another recourse for those whom you have deemed unfit to be bonded by matrimony. You had the option to turn this into a win-win situation, but instead, you chose the mean-spirited and malicious path of denying civil unions in order to prevent people who are in love from being able to take care of each other. And for good measure, you even pushed further to lay the groundwork to prevent their ability to have durable powers of attorney, health care directives,
and wills. These were not the actions of a man protecting something. These were the actions of a man who hates. A man who is so caught up in his own self-righteousness that he cannot even tolerate the existence of a thought he doesn’t
share. You could have simply said, "no civil unions." But you didn’t. You took it further. You turned what could have been simply a display of poor character and insensitivity, into an act of cruelty.

I suppose that in the future it is conceivable you will be viewed as the sacrosanct protector of contractual obligations. Maybe the Queen of England will make you a
Knight of the Realm for valiantly standing firm, buoyed by your religion, against the stalwart foes of contract law. These things are possible, but more likely I see your actions and those of your colleagues, to be remembered as the death throes of a bygone era, where intolerance and inhumanity struggled for one last gasp of air, before being overcome by humanity’s irresistible strides towards equality.

You know, it’s a funny thing. Throughout the history of the world, there were always those who sought to hold people back and to restrict the rights of others, and during those times they enjoyed the support of many of their colleagues and
neighbors. Yet the measure of time has always held constant. Whenever we look back, those that used their power to deny the rights of others and to limit the liberty of their people, are without fail condemned for their actions and are reviled for their lack of character. And unerringly, in the long run their efforts have always failed, always been torn down by those who followed.

I would humbly ask that you keep this final thought in mind as you continue your service to the people.

Jay Corvid



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When you do something dumb, do something worse to draw attention away from it...
[info]jay_corvid
2004-05-16 08:30 pm UTC (link)
After my first email, I waited patiently for the words of wisdom that would open my eyes to what I had been missing all along. Surely I couldn't have been that far off base! Alas, those words never came, and I might have left well enough alone (ok, fair enough, I likely wouldn't have), except for the interview I heard on the radio this afternoon with our good friend Bobby. It seems there were a few people who had not heard of his predilection for spreading evil, and being the "go get'em" sort of fellow that he is, he wanted to make sure they were included. So he whipped himself into a fury and called into his local radio station to share his views.

The following email was my response. If he deigns to answer, I will be sure to share it with my dear friends here on LiveJournal. Enjoy...


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Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 17:18:55 -0400
From: Jay Corvid
Subject: Re: Deplorable
To: Del_Marshall@house.state.va.us

I am writing once again because I just heard you being interviewed on WMAL radio regarding homosexual unions and there were several points I wanted to make. First and foremost, from the very moment you were on the air, you were on the attack. As mentioned in my previous email, this over-zealousness belies your true intent. It is not as if you
were giving your perspective on the debate, or that you were responding to comments made against you, but rather you were
vigorously crusading against the civil rights of these individuals. It would be one thing to disagree, but yet again you let your hate show. Enough on that, let's get to the meat of the conversation.

You asked the host of the program what marriage means to him. He replied with "Devotion, love, caring for the other person, commitment, and dedication," to which you eloquently replied, "I am committed to my children, neighbors, and friends but I only married one." So when the host asked you the same question, "What does marriage mean to you," you didn't answer the question and said that you were essentially only on the air to confront the hosts views. You said that you were there to dispute his "feelings" that marriage for
homosexuals doesn't hurt anyone (which, based on the way you spat the word "feelings" out, indicates that you don't care much for what people feel in general) . This tells me a few things.

First, it tells me that you knew that whatever answer you gave would be turned around against you and that you didn't have a leg to stand on. It means that you recognize that the only reason you didn't marry your neighbor or your friend was because of the "feelings" you had for your wife, feelings which any homosexual in the nation could have towards their partner as well.

Second, it tells me that you are really just concentrating on keeping the rights of homosexuals suppressed, rather than on trying to protect the sanctity of marriage. Why else wouldn't you be willing to discuss what marriage is "supposed to be". After all, you said that you just thought the five hour marriage of Brittany Spears was a "silly example" when you could have said that it was an affront to the institution of marriage. This would imply that you are similarly not
bothered by the statistics that indicate that the average length of an American marriage is 6-10 years. And why would that bother you, when there exists the great threat of homosexuals trying to be committed to each other!

Third, it tells me that you will ultimately lose because you are trying the same method that was used to staunch the advancement of rights for blacks in this country. You can't give any good arguments regarding why allowing homosexual marriages would be detrimental to society, so instead you stay on the attack to avoid having to defend your views. Which I am sure is also why the "courage of your convictions" were not powerful enough to lead you to answer my previous email on this topic either. And speaking of the civil rights
movement, that brings me to my next point.

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When you do something dumb, do something worse to draw attention away from it...PART 2...
[info]jay_corvid
2004-05-16 08:31 pm UTC (link)
While on the call, you ranted about how the civil rights movement of the 60's couldn't be compared to the plight of homosexuals. After all, "blacks had separate water fountains, had to ride the back of the bus, couldn't vote, couldn't go to the same schools," and homosexuals have never been discriminated against in that way. By that logic, I'm
amazed you survived childhood. Are you completely unable to learn from one event or situation and apply it to another? Are you really saying that unless we are preventing homosexuals from using "straight" water fountains, then we can't possibly be practicing discrimination? Or are you saying that simply preventing homosexuals from marrying is
not a big deal and that they shouldn't get "all worked up about it"? If that is what you are saying, then you don't have a very high view of marriage in general, or your own marriage in specific.

Finally, you tried to draw a distinction between marriage and "orientations". While you didn't do a very good job of it, you were trying to say is that if we let gay's marry, then what do we do about people who want to marry, and I'll use your example here, "fecal matter". This seems to sum up your core values, that you equate homosexuals to feces. This speaks volumes about your character. And don't try to tell me that this is an unfair comparison, you could have instead said "polygamy" which is the obvious comparison, but you didn't. The fact that you don't see the differences between a same sex couple wanting to get married and the case of someone trying to marry feces, is nothing short of horrifying. And the fact that you went on the radio to make this known, shows the sad state of affairs in Virginia, and although you won't reply to this message either, I just wanted to be sure you know that we did hear what you had to
say.

Jay Corvid

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Re: When you do something dumb, do something worse to draw attention away from it...PART 2...
[info]jessbunbun
2004-05-17 05:48 am UTC (link)
Good stuff, keep it up!

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[info]onda_bianca
2004-05-16 10:33 pm UTC (link)
Wow...good letters.

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[info]jay_corvid
2004-05-18 07:53 pm UTC (link)
Apparently my jabs at him not having the stones to reply had an affect. I received the following response from him...


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Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 15:52:37 +0000
From: "bob marshall" <delegatebobmarshall@hotmail.com>
Subject: illicit inferences
To: Jay Corvid
Body:

OK.

Delegate Bob Marshall
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Yep, that was it. First and foremost, this is a perfect example of all of my comments regarding his inability to defend his positions. Second, I was unclear by what he meant by "illicit inferences". For those who don't know (some of the people I spoke with about this didn't know), the word "illicit" has two meanings. It means "illegal", but it also means "contrary to accepted morality". I can only assume by that he means that his "fecal matter" comments were merely inferring illicit things that would also happen if they allowed gay marriage, rather than actually comparing homosexuals to fecal matter.

But did you notice how much effort he put into ensuring that everything was cleared up? You really get the feeling that he wanted to set the record straight and was truly concerned that he was misunderstood. However, just to give him the opportunity to expand on it, I emailed him again. Rather than leaning on him again, I wanted to give him enough rope to hang himself again and let him have the opportunity to explain further. As always, I'll keep you posted if I get a response...and for the record, I'm only going to give him a few days with this message before I hit him again.


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Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 14:16:01 -0400
From: Jay Corvid
Subject: Re: illicit inferences
To: bob marshall <delegatebobmarshall@hotmail.com>

Thank you for the thoughtful response, but could you explain
what you mean by "illicit inferences"?

Thanks,

Jay Corvid
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